Of William Redden Sr. and Fanny Kaylor
Newsletter
Dec. 2002
P O Box 761, Toledo WA 98591
e-mail: the_descendants@hotmail.com
Report to members
Dec. 2002
The family organization was formed in November of 1999, A formal announcement of the formation of the family organization went out in November of 1999. In the early part of 2000 a website was created to help locate and identify descendants of William Redden Sr. and Fanny Kaylor and to provide information. In December of 2000 the domain name thedescendants.org was registered as a permanent address for the website. In the last two years the website has helped to bring us in contact with a number of descendants who have registered with the organization. Currently our numbers have grown to twenty-nine members who have registered, representing five of the ten lines descending from William and Fanny.
As
many of you know, genealogy research is time consuming. Gathering, organizing, verifying
information, and recording data, as well as working on a website, all takes time. Weeks turned into months, months
into years and here we are after three years since the inception of The
Descendants organization before the first newsletter could be sent to your
e-mail or postal boxes. Slow as it may seem, the organization is moving forward!
Our numbers are increasing as we continue to locate descendants. Several of them
are actively engaged in researching their family lines and are sharing what they
know with us. Others have family photos of descendants and have provided copies
of those. Some have contributed gedcoms of genealogy data on there family lines.
Though
the organization is still very young, the goal and vision of a family
organization dedicated to locating as many descendants from as many of the
lines as possible and building a family data base of genealogy information in
one place that can be shared with all those related to William and Fanny.
How can you help? Our first request is that you keep
us informed of any changes in your mailing address, phone number or e-mail
address.
Secondly,
we are asking for your input to help build our database of family records on all
of the descendant lines. When you registered with the organization we ask for a
simple genealogy of your line from William Sr. down to you, which you provided.
We are now asking you to provide as much of the dates and information as
possible on the names of those individuals in your line who are no longer
living, and just the names of those who are still living. If you know of
individuals who are descendants and are not registered with the family
organization, please encourage them to do so. We welcome material such as
genealogy records on all descendant lines, photographs, biographies of ancestors
of any line, family histories, copies of birth and death certificates, land
records, family legends, stories, etc.
Information
contributed to The Descendants of William Redden Sr. and Fanny Kaylor will
become the property of the family organization for the purpose of building a
genealogy database that can be made available to all registered descendants free
of charge.
The
Descendants will provide a list of records and photographs we have obtained.
That list will be part of the next semi-annual News Letter slated to be sent out
by the end of June of 2003.
Copies
of most information and photographs can be transferred via e-mail for free.
Any information, photographs etc.
distributed by The Descendants of William Redden Sr. and Fanny Kaylor are not to
be used for commercial purposes or to be copied or reproduced for sale in any
format, electronically or printed.
That
is not to say that the contributor who holds the original information and has
provided us with a copy of the material or photographs, is under any restricted
use of that material, they would hold the copyrights so long as it originates
with them. Any request for commercial use of the information would be referred
to the original contributor.
The
Descendants may at some future date, place a compilation of such genealogical
and photographic information in book or CD format, to be distributed to all
registered descendants at production cost only.
Any
material that requires a physical reproduction in order to transfer the
information such as copying a record on to a CD or the physical reproduction of
photographs, will incur a fee for the material and reproduction cost only, but
not for the information contained there on.
RESEARCH, looking for William Redden Sr.
What we know
is that Abraham Bair Redden, wrote a
family history and distributed it either at the 1958 Redden reunion at Little
Beaver State Park or at the reunion held at the Crow Christian Church a few
years earlier. The family history states that William Redden Sr. was born in
England about 1774, it also states that Fanny Kaylor was born in
Holland in 1773 and that they
entered the United States through the Port of Philadelphia.
We now know that this
information is not accurate.
In the
1850 Raleigh Co., Virginia census it shows that William was 61 years old, which
would mean he was born in 1789. The census recorded his birthplace as Virginia.
In the 1850
Raleigh Co., Virginia census it shows that Fanny was 58 years old. That would
mean that she was born in 1792. The census recorded her birthplace as Virginia.
Mathias Kaylor b. 10 Feb
1748, Essen, Germany, m. 11 Apr 1780, in Germany, Katherine Cheter, b. 20
Mar 1760, Germany. Mathias died ca 1838, Summers Co., WV. Original listing of family names from
Cecilia Schiller. Confirmed and
tracked through census and marriage records by Freda and Carol Katherine: Maiden
name of Catherine from Cleo Nyce, online 2/99.
Children:
1. Mathias
Kaylor.
2. Catherine
Kaylor b. 11 Apr 1780.
3. Michael
Kaylor b. 26 Apr 1784.
4. Love
Kaylor b. 20 Aug 1787.
5. Susan
Kaylor b. 20 Aug 1787, m. 12
Jul 1803, in Greenbrier Co., WV, John
Alderson, John A. Richmond, b.
1779, (son of William C.
Richmond and Mary ___ (Richmond)). Susan died 12 Mar 1841, Greenbrier
Co., WV.
6. Mary Cristena
Kaylor b. ca 1789.
* 7. Frances
Kaylor b. ca 1792.
8. Nancy
Kaylor b. 1803, Greenbrier Co.,
WV.
Note:
Summers
County was created in 1871, from Greenbrier Co. VA, which was created in 1777
Note:
Frances
Kaylor is reported to have been born in Bath Co. VA, which was created in 1790
We also know that in a record
recorded by Aubrey Smith, “Smith – Rife” microfilm collection Copies in
possession of the descendants.
What we know is that among some of the descendants personal records they have him
recorded. As John William Redden Sr. Others have him as William Redden Sr. and a
few list him as William C. Redden.
We know that in the 1950 Centennial Edition of the Beckley Post-Herald it
refers to
We know that Abraham Bair Redden, while reading that newspaper in 1950, told
his daughter-in-law, Glendora Dell Shipley, that the newspaper account was
incorrect. He referred to John
Redden as “Old John Redden” and
said that he was a different individual from William Sr. He said that John was
not the father of Harrison, Michael William and Joseph. That statement has
not been proven or disprove to date.
Another piece of the puzzle, is the Shady Springs land record 1850 - 1867
Below is a partial copy of
that record:
Name
Residence
Nature of
Acres
owners estate
1850
Redden,
Michael Fayette
Annual Fee
50
New River
Redden, William
Raleigh
Annual Fee
100 New River
Redden,
William Sr. Raleigh
Annual Fee
100 Water
of Glade Creek
Redden, John Sr. Raleigh
Annual Fee
100 Glade Creek Hill
1854
Redden,
William Sr. Raleigh Annual
Fee
100 Water of Glade Creek
Redden, John Sr. Raleigh
Annual Fee
100 Glade
Cr
Redden, Michael Fayette Annual
Fee
50 Waters of Sand Branch
1855
Kalor,
Henry Raleigh Annual
Fee
866 Piney & Glade
Creek
(Transferred
534 Acres to J. Smith)
Redden,
William Sr. Raleigh
Annual Fee
100 Water of Glade Creek
Redden, John Sr.
Raleigh
Annual Fee
100 Glade
Cr
Redden, Michael Fayette Annual
Fee
50 Waters of Sand Branch
1856
Kaylor, Henry Raleigh Annual Fee 155 Piney & Glade Creek
Redden,
William Sr. Raleigh Annual
Fee
100 Water of Glade Creek
Redden, John Sr.
Raleigh
Annual Fee
100 Glade Cr
Redden, Michael Fayette Annual
Fee
50 Waters of Sand Branch
Note:
The
above land record continues with little change year to year from 1853 through
1866 each year listing William Redden Sr. and John Redden Sr. until the year
1867 when John Redden Sr. is listed, but William Redden Sr. no longer appears on
the record.
More
of the mystery:
In the Raleigh
County Death Record it
records the death of John Redden Sr. as having died Sep. 13, 1885 in
Raleigh County at the age of 87. The cause of death was reported as old
age. The reporting family member was recorded as J.H Redden the son of the
deceased.
Looking closer at the record we find that the death year of 1885 and reported age of 87 is a little confusing. If William were 61 years old in 1850, he would have been 96 years old in 1885, a nine-year difference. The family legend says William was born in England in the year 1772. If that were true he would have been 113 years old in the year 1885.
The Raleigh County Death Record also records the death of J.H.Redden as Apr. 9, 1899, in Raleigh County, at the age of 76. The cause of death was listed as Bright’s disease. The parents were listed as Wm. & Fannie Redden.
In another record, recorded by Aubry Smith, Mary Redden Worley, granddaughter of William Redden Sr., states, “John Redden Sr. is the son of William Redden Sr’s sister.”
RESEARCH Where to look?
By Len and Karen Taylor
I
have a question for you that I'm hoping you can give me some direction on.Eliza
Kidwell married John Harrison Redden. Do
you have any knowledge, whether real or passed down, that Eliza was a Native
American or descended from one?
Thanks,
sincerely,
E-mail: the_descendants@hotmail.com
TheDe
We hope to increase our numbers in 2003. There are five lines of the ten lines descending from William and Fanny that we have not found representative of. We hope to find descendants from all of the lines. If you come in contact with anyone from these lines please invite them to join us, or contact me at either the above e-mail address, phone number or mailing address.
The Descendants is a non-profit family organization
founded November of 1999. Its purpose is to foster more effective genealogy
research on the lines of William and Fanny’s children by collecting,
organizing and verifying the genealogy data of those lines. Here stands an open invitation to all who descend from William and
Fanny's ten children. Let us learn of each other, and prove our family history
together, sharing information with each other in a spirit of respect for those
who have gone before.
Let us discover
our heritage and build a Family Tree in honor of those two individuals, who were
among the first to settle in what is today Raleigh County, WV. to establish a
home, and a family, which is our common link.
Membership is free and open to all who are descendants of William Redden Sr. and Fanny Kaylor.
Membership Registration Requirements:
1.
We ask for your full name and a line of your descendants from
William Redden Sr. and Fanny Kaylor down to you.
2.
We ask for your mailing address, your e-mail address, and a phone number for
our records.
The mailing address and phone number will remain confidential and will not
be given out without your permission.
3.
We also ask for your permission to post your name and the state in which
you
reside with the other registered descendants on our web page. Your personal
information, address, telephone number, or e-mail address will not be
posted on the website